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FAQs - Govsales of MoD Surplus, Ex Army Military Vehicles
MoD Surplus vehicles and equipment for sale
Whats the difference between "as is" price and "prepared price"
"As is price" refers to an item being sold in the same condition as it was received at our facility without any work having been done to it, this offers the buyer the best price option.
"Prepared price" refers to an item which has been workshop checked, serviced (see below) and has been re-painted to a single of choice by the customer. (reduction available if painting not required)
Can I order goods for a non embargoed destination and then ship to an embargoed destination
The simple answer to this question is no.
If we are advised at any point that goods (which are to be ordered, or have been ordered, and which are to be shipped to a non embargoed destination) will upon arrival be moved to an embargoed destination e.g. Republic of Congo to Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) then we must decline or cancel the order.
Do I need RHD or LHD
The map below shows left and right hand drive countries.
If you are uncertain, start typing the country name into the box below and it will provide the details for the country selected
Which country drives on the Left and which on the right
Start typing a country into the box below
Why do I need a De-Gas Certificate to ship a tanker truck/trailer
Shippers have a long standing rule that for safety reasons, tanks and tankers must be De-Gassed to be permitted to board a vessel.
Degassing involves venting, steam cleaning and drying of the tank.
The charge for this is GBP £500.00 per tank and is in addition to any shipping costs.
Why don't you show prices?
The simple reason that we don't provide prices is due to the fact that:-
- a) Our stock changes so frequently it is impossible to list current prices
- b) Customers often purchase several items which allow for some negotiated discount
- c) Customers orders often include modification to suit their own specification
Do you give a warranty
Because we cannot countenance the history of any vehicle or machine and because for the most part the vehicles are being exported we do not give warranties, however, we have been in business for over 60 years and will try to resolve any issues to the clients satisfaction.
We also invite any inspection of customer orders before, during and after preparation which will serve to provide peace of mind.
Do you accept part exchanges
As a general rule the answer is no, we are unable to accept part exchanges, however we will consider such a request on a case by case basis.
Can you arrange an independent inspection for us
Yes - We can arrange for an independent inspection to be carried out on equipment to be purchased both before and after preparation
Can you arrange shipping
YES, we can arrange shipping for customers.
Goods generally go by sea on RORO vessels (Roll On Roll Off) or by 20ft. 40ft or 45ft container depending on the size of the shipment, RORO is usually the cheaper option.
We can also arrange for marine insurance if the customer requires it.
We can also arrange air transportation for urgent shipments but this is incredibly expensive depending on the size of the shipment, ask for details.
All ex. military equipment requires an export license from the UK government and in some cases an additional license from the country of origin of the goods being shipped (example: Oshkosh from the USA)
If you want to track a vessel use the following website (recommended)
Inco Terms
The Incoterms rules or International Commercial terms are a series of pre-defined commercial terms published by the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) widely used in international commercial transactions.
A series of three-letter trade terms related to common sales practices, the Incoterms rules are intended primarily to clearly communicate the tasks, costs and risks associated with the transportation and delivery of goods.
The Incoterms rules are accepted by governments, legal authorities and practitioners worldwide for the interpretation of most commonly used terms in international trade.
They are intended to reduce or remove altogether uncertainties arising from different interpretation of the rules in different countries.
First published in 1936, the Incoterms rules have been periodically updated, with the eighth version—Incoterms 2010—having been published on January 1, 2011
INCO Definitions as used by us.
EXW (Ex Works)
Ex means from. Works means factory, mill or warehouse, which is the seller's premises. EXW applies to goods available only at the seller's premises. Buyer is responsible for loading the goods on truck or container at the seller's premises, and for the subsequent costs and risks.
In practice, it is not uncommon that the seller loads the goods on truck or container at the seller's premises without charging loading fee.
In the quotation, indicate the named place (seller's premises) after the acronym EXW, for example EXW Kobe and EXW San Antonio.
The term EXW is commonly used between the manufacturer (seller) and export-trader (buyer), and the export-trader resells on other trade terms to the foreign buyers. Some manufacturers may use the term Ex Factory, which means the same as Ex Works.
CFR (Cost & Freight - Formerly C&F)
The delivery of goods to the named port of destination (discharge) at the seller's expense. Buyer is responsible for the cargo insurance and other costs and risks. The term CFR was formerly written as C&F. Many importers and exporters worldwide still use the term C&F.
In the export quotation, indicate the port of destination (discharge) after the acronym CFR, for example CFR Karachi and CFR Alexandria.
Under the rules of the INCOTERMS 1990, the term Cost and Freight is used for ocean freight only. However, in practice, the term Cost and Freight (C&F) is still commonly used in the air freight.
CIF (Cost, Insurance & Freight.
The cargo insurance and delivery of goods to the named port of destination (discharge) at the seller's expense. Buyer is responsible for the import customs clearance and other costs and risks.
In the export quotation, indicate the port of destination (discharge) after the acronym CIF, for example CIF Pusan and CIF Singapore.
Under the rules of the INCOTERMS 1990, the term CIF is used for ocean freight only. However, in practice, many importers and exporters still use the term CIF in the air freight.
Do I need to pay VAT?
If you are a UK customer
Yes you need to pay VAT at the current rate on all purchases.
If you are VAT registered you can claim this amount back
If you are an EC Customer (Excluding the UK) and we arrange the shipping
No you will NOT now need to pay VAT
If you are an EC Customer (Excluding the UK) and you arrange the shipping
Yes you will need to pay VAT
If your freight forwarder is able to give us written confirmation that they will provide us with a copy of the bills of lading then we will consider not charging VAT on the sale however, we must stress that this is done at our discretion and is dependent on our assessment of the shipping company as to the reliability of any statements to this effect
If you are a Non EC Customer and we arrange the shipping
You will not be charged VAT
If you are a Non EC Customer and you arrange the shipping
No you will not need to pay VAT however,
We need your freight forwarder to provide us with written confirmation that they will give us a copy of the bills of lading. If we do not receive this confirmation, we will have to charge a 20% surcharge which is then refundable on receipt of a copy of the Bills of Lading
Terms
Our standard terms for orders is EXW (Inco definition = Ex. Works)
30% deposit with order (unless agreed in advance)
Balance prior to shipping or collection from premises
INCO Definitions
EXW (Ex Works)
Ex means from. Works means factory, mill or warehouse, which is the seller's premises. EXW applies to goods available only at the seller's premises. Buyer is responsible for loading the goods on truck or container at the seller's premises, and for the subsequent costs and risks.
In practice, it is not uncommon that the seller loads the goods on truck or container at the seller's premises without charging loading fee.
In the quotation, indicate the named place (seller's premises) after the acronym EXW, for example EXW Kobe and EXW San Antonio.
The term EXW is commonly used between the manufacturer (seller) and export-trader (buyer), and the export-trader resells on other trade terms to the foreign buyers. Some manufacturers may use the term Ex Factory, which means the same as Ex Works.
CRF (Cost & Freight - Formerly C&F)
The delivery of goods to the named port of destination (discharge) at the seller's expense. Buyer is responsible for the cargo insurance and other costs and risks. The term CFR was formerly written as C&F.
Many importers and exporters worldwide still use the term C&F.
In the export quotation, indicate the port of destination (discharge) after the acronym CFR, for example CFR Karachi and CFR Alexandria.
Under the rules of the INCOTERMS 1990, the term Cost and Freight is used for ocean freight only. However, in practice, the term Cost and Freight (C&F) is still commonly used in the air freight.
CIF (Cost, Insurance & Freight)
The cargo insurance and delivery of goods to the named port of destination (discharge) at the seller's expense. Buyer is responsible for the import customs clearance and other costs and risks.
In the export quotation, indicate the port of destination (discharge) after the acronym CIF, for example CIF Pusan and CIF Singapore.
Under the rules of the INCOTERMS 1990, the term CIF is used for ocean freight only. However, in practice, many importers and exporters still use the term CIF in the air freight.
Do you accept letters of credit?
Yes we can accept letters of credit for balance payment, all initial deposits are preferred to be made by bank transfer unless the buyer is very well known and trusted.
Letters of credit must be:-
- Confirmed
- Irrevocable
- Payable at sight (of shipping documents)
- At the counters of a Major UK Bank
- Allow for partial shipments
Why do I need an export license?
| Exports sales make up over 90-95% of our core business and as such we are well versed in the processes involved in the shipping of vehicles and equipment round the world. It is necessary for most exports to require an Export Licence as issued by BIS (Department for Business, Innovation & Skills). In particular it is necessary for customers purchasing ex. military vehicles to apply for an export licence being specific to the items being exported if the items are being exported from the U.K. EXPORT LICENCE.... What to do? (Don't worry it's not that difficult) Goods listed on our website as "NLR - No Licence Required are either civilian machines or have been deemed by BIS as not requiring a licence by virtue of having submitted a rating application. Any surplus military vehicle which is considered to be "Specially Designed for Military Use" must be shipped on either an "Open General Export Licence (OGEL)" or a "Standard Individual Export Licence (SIEL)" depending on which country they are being sent to. To download the latest copy of the OGEL All other countries listed in Schedule 2 will require a Full SIEL export licence for which the application forms (depending on whether you are an End User or Stockist) can be found following the link below: Download End User Document | Download Stockist Document Firstly when applying for an export licence, customers need to complete what is called an End User Agreement, a copy of which can be downloaded using the link above and which incorporates a checklist to aid in it's completion. Once that has been completed simply submit it back to our office if we are applying for the licence on your behalf or submit it to BIS if you are applying independently for the licence. The sequence of events is as follows:
Export licence applications generally take between 3-6 weeks to be processed and approved. IMPORTANT NOTICE: Some countries are under an EU embargo and as such will not be granted an export licence unless it can be proven that the vehicles are for Humanitarian Aid Support e.g. UN Aid Work. For more information on EU Embargoed Countries..... |
How much does a license cost?
There is currently no fee for an export licence however, BIS is considering levying a fee in for each licence application.
How long does a license last?
A licence once granted is valid for 2 years or until it is exhausted i.e. all goods stated are shipped or it expires or is revoked due to changes in the status of the destination concerned e.g. EU/NATO sanctions come into force.
How do I complete an End User?
Completing the End User Document
For information on how to complete the end user document, give our office a call.
To download a copy of the End User Forms use the link provided below.
Do I need a licence?
It depends on whether you are buying and or shipping Military or Civilian vehicles and equipment.
If the goods are civilian e.g. Caterpillar Plant or Civilian trucks then NO you should not need an export licence, we can help advise.
If the goods are Surplus Military items then YES, some form of licence will be required, please refer to the FAQ Export Licences - Why do I need an export licence
OVERLAND EXPEDITION VEHICLES - IMPORTANT
There is a growing demand for overland expedition vehicles in the UK and we are receiving dozens of calls and emails every week from people looking to build their own vehicle based on an ex military chassis.
Before you do anything, please read the section (LICENSING REQUIREMENTS) as this contains important information which relates specifically to the use of a military chassis and taking it out of the UK or through multiple countries.
Chassis Only
Chassis Type
Ex. Military Cargo trucks are built to withstand a tougher lifestyle than that of most civilian counterparts.
The trucks we offer are available either as they came to us from the relevant MOD authority without any preparation or fully prepared and even painted if required.
Some of the cargo trucks are fitted with a hydraulic winch system which can be useful if intending to go extreme off roading.
Body Only
We don't actually build the bodies ourselves and we used to pass the details of the company who has built numerous vehicles for us over the past few years but with their order books full to capacity now for the next two years we regret that we are unable to offer body only builds for the moment.
Full Build
If you want a full build then we will happily provide you with the chassis of your choice for you to be able to build your own body or relocate the vehicle to a company who will undertake the build for you.
License Requirements (IMPORTANT)
IMPORTANT! A vehicle which has been specially designed for military use or which has integrated components which are specially designed for military use will require an export license if being transported overseas for any reason whatsoever.
- A change of colour
- DOES NOT REMOVE THE NEED FOR A LICENSE
- A V5 STATING MOTORHOME (OR SIMILAR)
- DOES NOT REMOVE THE NEED FOR A LICENSE
- Turning it into an overland expedition vehicle
- DOES NOT REMOVE THE NEED FOR A LICENSE
- Temporary relocation outside of the UK i.e. holidaying
- DOES NOT REMOVE THE NEED FOR A LICENSE
Be aware that the above relates specifically to the UK however the same rules are also applicable to all EU countries which means you may require a license for each country you are moving the vehicle from stating the country to which the vehicle is being re-located.
For advice on export licensing please call or email
Can I import into the USA or Canada?
The rule for the importation of Land Rovers into either the USA or Canada is that the vehicles and in particular the chassis must be at least:-
- 25 years old for the United States
- 15 years old for Canada
If you cannot find the answer here
Send us an email to sales@modsurplus.co.uk and clearly state what information you need and we will get back to you as soon as possible.
We may add the question and answer to the list of FAQ's.
